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Re: Anlage Löwe, Abschnitt Friesland (gemeente Marum)

Geplaatst: 25 dec 2016, 17:38
door +AW+
Hi Ties,
thx for the info... do you know if on the aerial the bunker are clearly visible.?
I need the position from the entrance to work out all the right positions from the removed bunker.
btw. do you have a contact to the MCC to visit the bunker from inside.
greetz
Alex

Re: Anlage Löwe, Abschnitt Friesland (gemeente Marum)

Geplaatst: 25 dec 2016, 18:19
door Ties
I don't think so. The complex was very well camouflaged. And while the picture was taken at a very high altitude I don't think the bunkers are visible very good.

I've never visited the Auswertungsbunker from the inside.

You know the German map of the complex? I can't make anything out of it by the way, doesn't have any recemblances with how it was build.

Re: Anlage Löwe, Abschnitt Friesland (gemeente Marum)

Geplaatst: 01 jan 2017, 21:22
door +AW+
I also can not combine the german map with the buildings.
maybe it was a early design.
what second tobruk you find in the noth part?
btw. I think the german left the WN end of the war and destroid the "Kampfstände/Tobruks"
greetz
Alex

Re: Anlage Löwe, Abschnitt Friesland (gemeente Marum)

Geplaatst: 02 jan 2017, 11:20
door Ties
The Germans left Lowe somewhere in the autumn of 1943, so very early in the war. Only a small group of about 10 men stayed overthere for the Flugwache. This Fluwa was part of the radar station Gazelle at Veendam. About one year later, in the winter of 1944 a special Sprengkommando came to blast the bunkers.

These details came from very detailed resistance reports.

Re: Anlage Löwe, Abschnitt Friesland (gemeente Marum)

Geplaatst: 02 jan 2017, 12:06
door +AW+
thanks for the info Ties.
did someone have the books "wespennest leeuwarden"... there shout be a map and further infos from "Löwe"

Re: Anlage Löwe, Abschnitt Friesland (gemeente Marum)

Geplaatst: 02 jan 2017, 16:54
door Ties
I don't have it. But it seems there are some nice pictures of Lowe in the books. I found a few pics on the Axis forum. It seems they even had a 8,8cm. Luftwaffe Flak Batterie to defend the complex. I will post the pics over here.

Re: Anlage Löwe, Abschnitt Friesland (gemeente Marum)

Geplaatst: 02 jan 2017, 17:03
door Ties
But I doubt if there was a 8,8cm batterie because these kind of guns where never manned bij Luft-Nachrichten personnel and I can't find any Luftwaffe Schwere Flak units in Groningen between 1940 and 1943. Only a Leichte Flak Abteilung, but that was in Groningen city.

Re: Anlage Löwe, Abschnitt Friesland (gemeente Marum)

Geplaatst: 02 jan 2017, 17:15
door scolty
I looked through Wespennest Leeuwarden but I can not find a map. Maybe I missed it?

Re: Anlage Löwe, Abschnitt Friesland (gemeente Marum)

Geplaatst: 02 jan 2017, 17:33
door Ties
There are three parts I believe.

Re: Anlage Löwe, Abschnitt Friesland (gemeente Marum)

Geplaatst: 02 jan 2017, 17:48
door scolty
And I looked through all three unfortunatly :?

Re: Anlage Löwe, Abschnitt Friesland (gemeente Marum)

Geplaatst: 02 jan 2017, 17:59
door Ties
@Alex, do you mean this map? I once found it on the website of the motorclub that is situated here.

Re: Anlage Löwe, Abschnitt Friesland (gemeente Marum)

Geplaatst: 02 jan 2017, 18:47
door AvB
Graag Nederlands gebruiken!

Alex leest Nederlands ;)

Re: Anlage Löwe, Abschnitt Friesland (gemeente Marum)

Geplaatst: 02 jan 2017, 18:53
door Ties
:lol: In orde.

Re: Anlage Löwe, Abschnitt Friesland (gemeente Marum)

Geplaatst: 02 jan 2017, 19:56
door +AW+
found the info on axis, from Nectar/Arnhem... that there are a nice map in the book.
If its the same as from the MCC page I didn´t know.

On this map I wonder about the discription "Vrouwenbunker" for the "Douche Gebouw"?
and a big wooden Barack for Muni!?

greetz
Alex

Re: Anlage Löwe, Abschnitt Friesland (gemeente Marum)

Geplaatst: 02 jan 2017, 22:08
door maarten-stahlbeton
Dat is mijn alter-ego op AHF ;)

Er staan geen kaarten van Löwe in Wespennest Leeuwarden. Alleen wat foto's van de stelling. Ik denk dat het over een ander kaartje van het vliegveld zelf ging. Die van de MCC is enigste kaart die ik ken.